"Blogging the Bog of Outer Banks Politics"
What's gonna happen is, the whole beach will ultimately be closed to vehicles at all times. My wife had a great idea----move all of the plovers, turtles and other "endangered species" to Carova to be with the horses. Close Carova to all vehicles except home owners. Open the rest of the beaches to vehicles year around. Look, just thinking outside the box!
Yes, because of the closing of ALL ACCESS south of Ramp 4...visitors who use ORV's are forced to crowd north of ramp 4 to the barricade south of Coquina Beach. Before the closing of the beach south of ramp 4 to ALL ACCESS, visitors were more evenly spread out from the Oregon Inlet spit north.
I thought the question was about the guy using the tiny blue shovel to dig himself out of the sand.
This doesnt even look appealing, crowded parking lot of a beach,bumper to bumper trucks, yahoo rednecks getting stuck, who would even want to spend the day there? Isnt this what you go to the beach to get AWAY from???? Glad they're all down there so the rest of the beaches can be enjoyed.
NH resident here ALL FOR a permit system, no matter how costly. The higher the cost, the better, because the more day-tripper yahoos it will keep out. JMO.
And Oregon Inlet sucks just as bad. I'd vote for permits for there, too.
johnr: you say that the beach will ultimately be closed to all vehicles almost like it's a bad thing. There's no reason under the sun people can't enjoy the beach without parking their badges of insecurity all over it. Our beaches are great because they're some of the last (relatively) unspoiled bit of nature. Let's kick all the stupid rednecks and their oversized Hot Wheels toys off the beaches. A real man can carry his stuff 30 yards from the parking lot to the beach.
"A real man can carry his stuff 30 yards from the parking lot to the beach."THUMBS WAY UP!That gets my vote for quote of the year.
Richard, you and I are on the same side---mostly. Read the rest of my comment---. I enjoy driving on the beach, but, I'm not about to do it when it's nuts out there and as over-crowded as it is. I just think the enviromentalists are loving all of OII's pics and planning the next stage of their banishing people from the beaches as much as they can.
The picture posted was not taken this past Sunday, there weren't that many people out on the Inlet this weekend. It is usually only that busy on a holiday weekend. I have been enjoying Ramp 4 for many years and know there is a simple solution for people being stuck, read the signs and drop your air pressure before attempting to drive on the beach, and obey the laws. I have seen many times posted on Oregon Inlet Idiots, the NPS brochure and they remind people that all traffic laws that apply on our roadways apply on all ORV accesses. I have noticed since the FB page was created, the amount of people getting stuck is less, and you see more people actually Airing Down before heading out on the sand. They also support the NCBBA & OPBA, two organizations that have been fighting to keep our beaches open & free since the beginning. I feel after looking at the pictures and reading the posts, they are trying to educate people on what to do and not to do when using the ORV accesses and doing it with humor. I am not sure about a permit system, but get a clue look at some of the trucks that have gotten stuck or have been tearing up the beaches, or not obeying the law, you think they are going to have a problem paying for a permit, $30,000-$60,000 priced vehicles, whether it came of the lot at that price or had accessories added to up the cost of them. ORV access has been an enjoyment for locals & tourists alike for a very long time, and it should continue that way for many years to come. Having worked many different types of jobs here on the Outer Banks over the years, from retail to restaurants and office jobs, we as a resort area need the Vacationing Tourist and the money that they bring to our economy. The environmental groups have been taking pictures for years at all of the ORV accesses, they are easy to spot. Just look for the person who looks like they aren't there to enjoy the beach as it's meant to be enjoyed. Really who comes and spends a day on the beach in 95degree weather in jeans and boots or shorts and a polo shirt with a huge camera that's worth more than most people's monthly mortgage payment. They don't need to get them from a FB page; they get them all by themselves and have been for years.
It's been deLIGHTful to drive across the bridge and see a congregation of pelicans instead of beer bellies and confederate flags
The problem is not ORV users not airing down. The problem is there are way to many ORV users on the beaches. There are no designated ORV corridors. The entire beach is an off road vehicle trail. It is a national park with plenty of ways to recreate without having to drive on the beach. Letting visitors drive on a National Park Beach anywhere at all is ridiculous even more so in the summer months. Someone is going to be run over and killed.The NCBBA and the OBPA have a concerted effort to make as much of the National Seashore open to ORV use as they can (see their website) They are actively lobbying to reduce or eliminate as many vehicle free areas in the Park as possible. Don’t be mislead by their “free and open” rhetoric.If they have their way all non ORV visitors will be walking in the ORV ruts and around their parked vehicles near about ever where in the Seashore.Had Enough
What a bunch of bull. For years folks have been able to ride and get to the beaches here without restrictions. With the infusion of folks that have never experienced this, they tend to be ok with not having it. For us folks that grew up with it, it is devestating.We can not understand why you would move here and want to change what made you want to come here in the first place. Just as with the recent News Reports of the guy in sandbridge who put up the fence to keep people from crossing his "beach". Folks it is Public property and everyone is entitled to use it. Have a good day , and enjoy your new home here, we have for years!
Anon, you say you grew up here and it would be devastating to lose beach driving privileges. OK you of all people should have seen it coming...where were you when your local business people and elected leaders kept pushing for more and more people on the Outer Banks? Just how much pressure do you think the beaches can stand? Did you grow up with 4x4's every two feet and beer swigging partiers who really don't give a sh$$ about fishing or clean family fun? If that's the way you grew up...you need to grow up. JMO.
Hold on there (“we have for years”) Annon. 1. Some of what I came here for (over 50 years ago) is exactly what motivated me to write my first comments. CHNS is public property not the fiefdom of select group of people who live here or those who want to come and just access the beach with an ORV. 2. I have not implied that I don’t want the public not to use (recreate) in the Seashore. I seek more access for visitors.3. Photos like the one EOD posted here (one gigantic ocean beach parking lot) are the kind of restrictions that the Outer Banks historically did not have and I have grown tired of. Drastic ORV regulations are needed to reduce the restrictions caused by the ORV regs of the past. Trying to link my comments to some off the wall guy in Sandbridge is a cheap shot, typical of the ORV advocates tactics. It don’t stick to me. Had Enough
I have enjoyed beach driving for over 24 years; I have done so with my family and have seen many other families who continue to enjoy the ORV areas. There are miles of beach in Dare & Currituck Counties that that do not allow vehicles and a substantial portion of those areas in Dare County are within the Cape Hatteras National Seashore. So are we to take from “Had Enough’s” comments that while the, “CHNS is public property” that it is only for the non-ORV public? Would this not create a, “fiefdom of select group of people who live here or those who want to come and just access the beach” by foot? Under “Had Enough’s” assertion that the ORV areas have created an ORV “fiefdom” I submit that we also have an on foot fiefdom.The designation of public lands for specific use is no t a new concept; we have hunting & anti-hunting interests in our country, we also have Federal Game Lands as well as Federal Game Preserves. We have government regulated & permitted duck blinds, we also have bird sanctuaries. There are contrasting uses throughout our vast public property holdings at the federal, state, & local levels. I utilize the areas that offer what I enjoy & stay away from the areas I don’t care for; however, I am not selfish enough to expect all areas to adjust to my tastes. I occasionally have the urge to dance (albeit not well), & Interstate 95 is public property, but I’m not going to argue the merits of the white line rumba with a Kenworth. I happen to love the French Quarter of New Orleans, but although Rue Bourbon is a public street it’s no place for “clean family fun” & there is a simple solution; don’t go there if you don’t like the atmosphere. Though I challenge EOD’s assertion that the Oregon Inlet ORV area has, “4x4's every two feet and beer swigging partiers who really don't give a sh$$ about fishing or clean family fun”, I will say that if you don’t care for the activities the Oregon Inlet ORV area then choose another area. Dare County has vast public recreation facilities some of which include tennis courts; I don’t give a fiddler’s toot for tennis (though I do believe the tennis skirt is a fine invention) but I don’t attempt to begrudge those who enjoy the sport by arguing that the courts are public property and they should not be allowed to keep me from enjoying my nap at center court.
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